Many people only have a small window into their family history. If you are trying to find out about your family, and have only limited information, drop me a line and we’ll see if we can help.
Over the years, I have built a database of over 6200 individuals who carry the Ivens name.(and all the other spellings). Mainly in the UK but also those families who emigrated to Canada, Australia, USA and The Azores and Portugal. I’m now a member of the Guild of One-Name Studies
The more information the better. Dates, ages locations, and associated family names such as siblings, nephews and uncles can all help pin down an individual.
Drop me a line at david.ivens@one-name.org
I’d be happy to hear from you. David Ivens
Mary Pym gave me permission to quote from Dora’s Patchwork memoir in an article which I wd now like to include in a collection of my articles, to be published by OUP. I visited Mary but don’t now have her address, nor do I know if she’s alive. Can you tell me how I can gain a renewed permission, please?
Thanks, Chris Stray
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Hi Chris,
How very interesting that you are looking into the memoirs of Mary Pym. I’m afraid I have no knowledge of the whereabouts of her descendants as my interest is in the family history of the various Ivens families. Dora, originally being an ‘Ivens’.
I suspect your interest is in her work on teaching methods, whereas my interest is in her memories of her youth in and around Harborough Magna, Warwickshire.
I’d love to be able to help you, but am unable to do so. My records stop with Michael Tom Pym and Christopher Pym, both of whom are deceased.
I, too, would like to quote from her memoirs, but have neither permission or access.
So sorry!
If I can help in any other way, I’d be happy to try.
David Ivens
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A picture from Time Magazine taken on March 4, 1971.
The caption was the on the other page of the article. Click to see full article.
“The bride’s family: from the left, Sisters Janet, 25, Rosalind, 23; Grandmother Mrs. Rose Bernard; Mr. and Mrs. James Sinclair; Sister Betsy, 18; Sister Heather Walker, 28, wither her 17-month-old daughter, Katie; and Margaret’s brother-in-law Tom Walker.”
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Some information about Charles John Ivens, only son of Charles Howe Ivens, who died in World War I from injuries during the Battle of Passchendaele.
http://www.veterans.gc.ca/eng/remembrance/memorials/canadian-virtual-war-memorial/detail/136891 http://www.mhs.mb.ca/docs/sites/virdenwarmemorial.shtml
http://www.mhs.mb.ca/docs/sites/minitonaswarmemorial.shtml
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=13948779
http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/136891/
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The following links are to records of Charles Howe Ivens and family:
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=70600&h=1052394&ssrc=pt&tid=100633776&pid=420022819685&usePUB=true
http://www.mhs.mb.ca/docs/sites/stmatthewsanglicanbrandon.shtml#photos
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=70599&h=1253663&ssrc=pt&tid=100633776&pid=420022819469&usePUB=true
http://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JDD7-N57
http://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FLB1-L9Q
http://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FL2R-1YN
http://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:26YS-PC5
http://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2Q92-D6F
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Record states Charles John Ivens died from wounds [shrapnel in the back] at No. 44 Casualty Clearing Station which at that time was located at Nine Elms.
http://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?op=img&app=microform&id=31829_B016696-00474
No. 44 Casualty Clearing Station pictured here:
http://ww1lit.nsms.ox.ac.uk/ww1lit/gwa/document/9037/4026
Also the Prime Minister of Canada’s great-grandmother’s 1971 “Pioneer Medallion” application.
http://search.bcarchives.gov.bc.ca/rose-edith-bernard-roberts-creek
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To follow the original Post on this topic, go to ‘All Posts’ and search for ‘The Trudeau Connection’
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Church where Rose Edith Ivens wed Thomas Kirkpatrick Bernard on January 4, 1917.
http://www.waymarking.com/gallery/image.aspx?f=1&guid=b3175b00-b3dd-4d93-b603-3e8eefad771f
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Does your research extend to the Hardy family, and–if so–would that include “Beldy”? The book “Hardy Family of Artists” credits two photos of Beldy to David Hardy Ivens, and I wonder if that is you? I am writing a paper about her friend in Paris, Rose. Rose’s connection with the Hardy/Maugham family has not been explored–at least not in telling her story–so I’m fleshing that part out a little. While I have the information that once can find on Ancestry.com and books about the family, the existence of photos (and potentially oral history) is intriguing enough that I feel compelled to reach out.
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Ahhh! Dear Beldy. I remember Beldy very well though I last saw her when I was about 8 years old (I can check the exact date). She was my grandmother’s sister, and her daughter, Daphne was my godmother. I have a bust created by Daphne of Herself that lives in my garden. I have loads of photos of Beldy and Charles and their girls, though I no longer have any of her paintings. I sold what I had, or gave them to special people who would value them – I no longer having the space. How might help you?
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Thank you for the quick reply. How nice to have a bust by your godmother to remember her by. I’ve been able to find a handful of examples of Beldy’s works on sites for completed auctions: what a talented family! Does family lore by chance preserve any stories of Beldy and her friend, Rose, from their time in the Parisian expat community ca 1902? If you have any photos of Beldy, or of her and Charles, from around this time, would it be possible for me to see one or two? Would you be open to a photo possibly being included in my paper, with credit, if the book’s editor gives such the thumbs up? Finally, if you have any photos of Beldy from around 1901-1903 with a ravishing 30-year-old widow that nobody has been able to identify, I may be able to help. 🙂
[I confess to being somewhat circumspect in my public reply here, as I’d prefer to avoid details leaking onto the internet ahead of my paper being published.]
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Hi David,
Thanks so much for this awesome me website! I am descended from the Ivens branch in the Azores and have been researching my family for many years. Through oral family history and some yDNA testing, we’ve ascertained and come closer than ever to confirm that my great-great grandfather was an illegitimate child of Robert Breakspeare Ivens. I was wondering if you or any Ivens surname bearing male relatives have done yDNA testing. I would love to compare notes and add more confirmation to what I already believe to be true. I do not bear the surname myself (and my branch here in the United States changed Ivens to Evans in the 1920s) but we had a male cousin tested and his results match yDNA that is found in the British Isles, so this confirms that the root is British. FamilyTreeDNA found a match with a man named Ivins here in the U.S. but I haven’t been able to make contact with him to ask further questions. So, any help would be so appreciated! Thanks again everything that you do to promote this family and its history around the world!
—Matt
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Welcome Matt, and very pleased that this site has proved interesting to you.
On your main question though, I have NOT tested my DNA but I’m not sure about any others from the William Ivens (Azores) descendants – but we can always ask!
On the other hand, I have several contacts amongst the Warwickshire branch of Ivens / Ivins (we haven’t yet found the connection to William) who have had their DNA tested, and one in Australia. And of course, many Ivins emigrated from UK to both US and Australia.
So, how does one compare DNA results? Is there a language or code or sequence that you can publish with which others will be able to compare their own? How does this work in practice?
If this proves of interest, it could well form the basis of another Post. I.e. the different DNA’s from different strands of the families carrying the Ivens name. If you want to exchange ideas more privately, my email address is david.ivens@wild-duck.co.uk
Meanwhile, I didn’t know Robert Breakespeare Ivens had an illegitimate family. Do you know who his ‘partner’ was?
Many thanks,
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